I need the CD

The other day my Grandmother asked me to help her with a drawer.  I opened it and was instantly taken aback at the treasure I saw.  No it wasn’t stuffed with cash, although nice,  was not near as priceless as the photographs in it.  I took to digging through them and could not stop.  It felt almost magical seeing near pristine photographs from 1890’s up to around the 1970’s

Photography and technology have come a long way in a relatively short time.  I am sure no one thought in 1920 that we would be viewing photos on a computer/screen like that of a tablet.  So who is to say that what we do today will even be viewable in another 70+ years.  LED T.V.’s will be a joke compared to the holographic 3D displays or whatever they come up with.  Are these CD’s that you all want as a client even going to be usable in the near future?  Delivering them on a USB drive is a new trend but even then it’s prone to failure.

So here is what I am trying to get across.  ”You need prints in your house!”  There is a BIG demand from clients that they NEED the CD of all the images.  It is the same as asking the photographer for the film in a sense.  Those of us that are a little older all had pictures developed back in the day and with the 4×6’s and they packed the negatives in there as well.  Now be honest, what did you EVER do with those?  Nothing I bet.  I sat here, 116 years later and since I had a “tangible” print to hold, I was able to enjoy family photos. There was no negatives anywhere in that drawer.

So you do a session with me and all you want is a CD of the “negatives” and no prints.  Great, but here is the realization.  You take it home and you might copy them to your laptop.  But the enthusiasm pretty much stops there.  You might send some in an E-Mail or post to Facebook.  I give scaled down files for this purpose alone, I want you to have the ease of sharing, and after all it is a social media world right now.  But what are you going to do with those HUGE files (negatives) that you just had to have??  For most of you, probably nothing…

Everyone has all the intentions of running to the local printer and printing off some but never really get around to it…

If you do manage to get down there, once you load them up and realize that 8×10 you printed off cut off the top of your daughters head since you can’t control what gets cropped off.

Not to mention the color and quality are terrible at best.  When professionals have images printed we tend to use one professional lab so we know what we are going to get back and that it matches our expensive calibrated monitors. We put a lot of time and effort into making sure colors are right for you; let us deal with all the issues of getting a great print.

When some out of town relatives come over and you want to show off your new family photos, they all have to come hunched over your computer chair, backs in pain as you flip through them.  How fun is that?  Most consumer LCD screens are terrible with viewing angles and colors are WAY off.  I cant tell you how many times I looked at some ones screen and it was a cold blue and they had no idea.  Also saw they had picked the wrong resolution and circles were squished to ovals, I offered to fix it, and the next day it was back because it looks odd…. “face-palm!”

Again this isnt about us NOT giving you the CD,  IT IS about encouraging you to get SOME prints thru your professional photographer.  Sure they are not .19 cents but we dont print at Wal-Mart for a reason…

Please leave comments below, whether you are a fellow photographer or on the client side.  I would love to hear thought on why you just have to have that “Full Res CD”

rachael - August 26, 2011 - 10:24 am

Right on!

Emily Hamrick - August 26, 2011 - 11:01 am

Very well written! You make and excellent point!! I remember getting the negatives with the 4×6 prints and most of them have uhhh disappeared, but I still have the prints! I need to share this on my fan page. Thanks for writing!

Rose Clark - August 26, 2011 - 11:27 am

Ah~mazing!!! I totally agree! Even myself, as a photographer, has fallen victim to hoarding all my images in my computer and not taking the time to print them. But as I too have found an abundance of joy through finding boxes and boxes of “photo prints” in my grandma’s house when she moved into a nursing home, I must say the whole family swarmed as we dug the “prints” for hours! Smiling and reminiscing of the memories we lived in and the stories of the moments we didn’t live through…it was just a wonderful time!

I think this article has totally changed my ideas of marketing, and running my photography business! I cannot thank you enough.

Heather Frykman - August 26, 2011 - 12:21 pm

Excellent!

Amanda Buechler - August 26, 2011 - 3:04 pm

Well said! Thank you so much for putting into words what everyone has wanted to say for so long :)

Fanik - August 26, 2011 - 4:07 pm

I live and work in a muslim country where women wear scarves and dont show skin to strange men.So their pictures should be private.There is no professional lab running by ladies.I cant print their photos in a lab.What shall I do?just give them high res images…

admin - August 26, 2011 - 4:13 pm

That is an interesting twist for sure Fanik! Print them yourself, pro printers can do amazing prints now. I mot saying to ‘never” give the files out, but stressing that people should care about getting a print made. I dont know the best way to handle your situation.

Jodi - August 26, 2011 - 7:47 pm

I will tell you why I as a buyer want a CD…. because I have FOUR children. If you take pictures of them together I take the CD to the store and have those pictures printer in 4×6 size so that one of each of the pictures will go in EACH of their scrapbooks. Meaning I print FOUR 4×6 prints of every picture my photographer takes so that EACH of my children will have that picture for themselves when they get older. The ones I want in larger sizes for my walls won’t be able to be split evenly so this is my solution. Now if my photographer offered to print me a 4×6 of each picutre times FOUR at only 10-15 cents a print to go along with my order I would happily take that over a CD but I do want the pics to be shared by ALL my children. :)

Ben McEntire - August 26, 2011 - 9:06 pm

Very well put, I have been trying to write such a thing, but could never express it as good as you did…

Sarah Vasquez - August 28, 2011 - 2:59 pm

What a wonderful post! I will definitely be sharing with my clients. And I agree with you, the reasons you have just mentioned are the exact reasons that I started giving out web images with each session.

Michelle holland - August 28, 2011 - 8:47 pm

Very well said. A topic that is constantly up for debate in the photography world. For those of you taking the CD and getting prints made someplace that charges 10-15 cents chances are you aren’t getting the quality of if your bout 4X6′ from the professional photographer that would get them printed at a professional lab, yes you may have to pay a few dollars a print , but down the road it will be so worth it

scott - August 28, 2011 - 8:51 pm

I kind of see where you are coming from, but disagree in a way, also. Sure, it is nice to have physical prints, but we are quickly moving to a digital age. Gone are the days when it took a week to send a picture to a loved one through mail. We can let family clear across the world in a split second. Not to mention the fact that printed photos can be destroyed easily whether it be fire, flood, tornado, etc. Once I put a photo online somehow, I can then get them at any time regardless of what happens. It is a peace of mind for one such as myself. Do I prefer a physical print? Of course, but not having digital copies of would just cripple the photo experience. Also, you have to realize that money is a factor for some, a cd is generally cheaper. I can see how this can be maddening for a photographer, but the more people you have with the photos out there, the more people know you and make appointments.

MamaP - August 28, 2011 - 9:08 pm

Jodi…it pains me to think about my artwork being valued at less than one dollar and worth nothing more than being cut up and pasted onto a piece of paper. I won’t even take clients whose sole intention for having professional portraits taken is to scrapbook them.

I have plenty of clients with two or more children, but they come to me for beautiful prints, canvases, and art to hang on their walls at home…not for scraps from the Walmart printers.

Amanda M. - August 28, 2011 - 10:54 pm

I couldn’t agree more !!

Cris Passos - August 29, 2011 - 3:05 pm

Amazing post!!! I wish my clients could read this, this is so true when we get the CD we just let the pictures there at the computer….

Wendy - August 29, 2011 - 3:21 pm

I am just starting out but this is something i am FIRM about!!! I will offer DVDs for purchase but never images. Thank you for putting this so perfectly!

Arminda - August 29, 2011 - 3:30 pm

SO WELL SAID! I must share this!

Noelle - August 29, 2011 - 3:41 pm

Aloha Shannon,

Wonderful post…I was just getting ready to post a similar story having just gone through my mom’s things after her recent passing.

Having the actual prints in my hand was very powerful and brought back so many wonderful memories :) Not only of my mom and family, but the professional prints she had all the way back to my great grandparents. I was amazed at how great they still looked compared to the drugstore snapshots of us growing up.

I always dreaded the yearly family photo, (each year had a special place on the living room wall), but I am so grateful that I have them now.

My mom was quite the shutterbug herself, unfortunately I am still trying to hack/decode her password for her computer to get to her digital files…

Mom of 4 - August 29, 2011 - 8:36 pm

Hi :) I love getting the CD with my images. No, it has not fallen short on me that our methods of keeping pictures (CD’s, DVDS, flash drives, computers) isn’t tangible or as longevity prone as having the actual print. It terrifies me that a simple malfunction can wipe away years of memories. But that is why I actually do print prints! When I get my full resolution CD, I immediately upload them to have them printed off, for me, my mom, my sister and brother and other relatives. I used to print them off for my MIL but she has her very own drawer and I am not interested in supplying her with photos so pics of my kids collect dust in her drawer. But the other thing I do with the CD is I make photo books. I scrapbook by hand but also digital books. The full resolution images come out better in these books. I make these books for my mom and for myself, and sometimes even my MIL in hopes she will actually look at them and appreciate the time and money spent on creating a story of our family’s year. So, that is why I personally want the images on the CD. Plus, by the time I have paid you, with your talent, to capture the images, I am all out of money and while in a perfect world I could spend $100-$500 every couple months or even 1x a year… I need to spend like $50 and get something quality that will last my family for generations. I hope they’ll have my books to look at, not just a drawer, but they’ll have those too since my frames are always full of something. Extra prints from the photographer cost so much and then when I find out they printed from Costco too, then I stand firm in wanting my images on CD.
Mostly, its so I can afford to give more people a picture and so I can scrapbook digitally with a quality image.

admin - August 30, 2011 - 8:35 am

Hi Mom of 4! There are a few out there like yourself that are the exception. I still feel the mass majority of people that are only concerned of “do you offer the full cd?”, dont really know WHY they want it. As a consumer there is VERY little you can do with those files. You cant email more than one at a time. Some computers cant even handle the massive file size of just the one image. Heck some of mine are equal to 8 or 9 mps songs, FOR ONE IMAGE. Personally I try to offer something that fits everyones needs. Every shoot I do has an online gallery that you can share or even “save as” right to your pc or smart phone. From there you can pick prints or two different “Full Res” digital packages. I would rather not sell the Full size files as I like to know my prints are not being ruined some some consumer lab. But I let the rope out some, and know some people like Mom of 4 will be able to use them for what they are intended for.

admin - August 30, 2011 - 8:51 am

P.S. @ Mom of 4
Lol at what ever FAUX-tographer that uses costco or the like to deliver prints. That just dont happen with a legitimate photographer.

admin - August 30, 2011 - 9:06 am

Scott I agree! I love knowing that by having images online somewhere there are backed up and view-able by anyone easily. I am not professing all pros should be print only… heck no! I give sharing sized files for exactly as you said… emailing, Facebooking, flickr or photobucket. I WANT your to share, thats great marketing for us as photographers. I just feel that most come at us demanding a full resolution cd only… no prints… dont even know what to do with those files. Example. I did a shoot for a friend, I gave her a cd with two folders, one said FOR PRINT USE ONLY, and another for FOR WEB USE ONLY… guess which ones she uploaded to FB… yea… It made my beautiful images of her family look like crap since all FB does is cram 5000pixel image down to 720px. Not to mention it probably took her an hour to upload those, instead of 10 seconds. So for “most” of the population, they DONT understand what why or whats going on.

If you hire a professional… USE THEM! Use them for their expertise. Dont hire carpet cleaners, and just buy the chemicals off them to do it yourself, they bring a lot of experience to the table, just like we do.

Renee - August 30, 2011 - 7:28 pm

Excellent! Couldn’t agree more – from both sides of the fence! =)

Tyjanna - September 1, 2011 - 6:06 am

I love to have the CD’s in case we have a fire that destroys all our prints. I keep the CD’s in a firesafe so that hopefully we can reprint if need be. I am a consumer, not a photographer, but I do use the better online labs to get my prints done. I have no other artwork on my walls except photos of my family. I wish I had been able to get a CD of my wedding photos because I need to get more printed and the photographer is nowhere to be found years later. What option do I have in this case? I think that offering the CD with a minimum print purchase is a wise idea, then you know that the families will get quality prints along with being able to print them later if they need to.

Sarah Jayne - September 1, 2011 - 6:19 am

I want the disc because I love pictures. I want my pictures for all time. And a CD of the images allows for that. When my grandmother was sick I went for a visit and spent three FULL days scanning pictures into the computer. I easily spent thirty hours doing this and didn’t even get half way through. I did this so everyone (grandchildren, aunt and uncles, etc) could have the pictures. The “real” images went to my aunt when my grandparents died, and this crushes me. I have a few originals my grandmother gave me. THOSE are the ones hidden away because they are too precious to risk exposure to the sun or some kind of disaster like a fire. The scanned and reprinted images are on display. When my grandchildren want pictures of their parents or grandparents there will be a couple originals, and they may argue over those, but at least they will be able to print out anything they want for themselves. Having a digital copy of pictures makes them timeless, and that is why I want a CD.

Tonya - September 7, 2011 - 8:07 am

As a mom who loves old and new photos I am always snapping pix and the fridge and lots of nooks and crannys are covered with them. When I had an amazing local photographer do family pix, I did ask for high res cd…….but I also have them blown up huge in frames around the house, and printed out prints to hand out at family functions as well. I go to so many friends houses and dont see pix hanging of people, just meaningless decor. Not me, I hang their art, their candid pix, and anything else of thiers that make me smile!

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I love creative people.  I really can relate to them as I obviously am from the same mindset.  But Amber, wow, she has some creative juices going on!  During our meeting, she was explaining that there was a “Alice in Wonderland” theme for the decor.  Not that everyone was dressed like it, but more of the decor and table pieces.   Little did i know that her center pieces were WORKS OF ART!  I was utterly BLOWN away with the effort and magnificent designs she came up with!  Every table was unique.  The wedding and reception was at the Hotel Pere Marquette in Peoria IL.  A staple in the downtown area with its fine elegance that fit my style perfectly.  Please enjoy my story of Amber & Brent.  Congrats!

 

 

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Jen Heap - May 31, 2011 - 4:43 pm

I would be nothing less than thrilled if these were my wedding photos. They’re stunning.

Stefanie Jakusz - May 31, 2011 - 5:42 pm

They are ours and we are completely thrilled, Jen! ;)

Rachael Myers - May 31, 2011 - 8:31 pm

Jen nailed it in saying these are absolutely stunning. The bride looked all glowy and beautiful and amazing on her big day! What a beautiful venue and wonderful people to photograph. Looks like so much fun! Great job! I LOVE these!!

Ben McEntire - September 1, 2011 - 6:53 pm

I just love seeing these photos… the images reflect the magnitude of the love between the two.. these are stellar shots…. I specifically love the shot in the stairs and by the sculpture (magnificent)

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